AICC Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, October 5

Welcome and Introductions

Scott Bergstrom (AICC) welcomed attendees. Today’s presentations were from various vendors with products and expertise of interest to the aviation industry.

On behalf of Thai Airways, host of the meeting, Phongsakdi Mahaprueksarattana (Thai Airways) welcomed attendees to Bangkok.

Scott Bergstrom (AICC) & Bernard Bouyt (Airbus) presented an overview of the AICC, its purpose, role, and achievements.

Rapid E-Learning with Macromedia Breeze

Talwinder Singh Minhas (Macromedia South Asia) described how Macromedia Breeze can be used to:

·        Build a complete online training system.

·        Easily convert PowerPoint slides into narrated, multimedia Breeze training presentations.

·        Test the effectiveness of courses by building quizzes and surveys into PowerPoint presentations.

·        Deliver live, interactive training to anyone, anywhere.

·        Incorporate live and recorded audio/video into training presentations.

Web Training Development System

Karl Buhl (INTEC) describe their product’s capability to develop training using a relational database and an open XML interface. Development can be done by a geographically independent team in the front end of the browser. He demonstrated offline and online publishing offline.

The E-Learning Process from the LMS to Data Collection.

Kris Rockwell (Hybrid-Learning) described how data collection in flight training, though critically important, is often a neglected component. For example, separate databases do not allow for easy tracking of pilot/crew status and currency. They are expensive maintain. There is a lack of integration with current training methodologies. Data forms are not easily updatable. He described how the Precis Data Collection Toolset is a solution to these problems of data collection. It is a Windows-based, TabletPC-based application. It provides the cornerstone of an AQP/ATQP program. It provides a flexible task analysis development system.

Allan Greene (Pelesys) described the capabilities of CREWKEY. It provides a one single “file source” for training material, electronic manuals, WBT and other relevant company information. It can provide a secure, mobile mode of delivery and access for all your corporate IT assets, including web based training and other relevant training applications, digital documentation libraries (e.g., aircraft FCOM’s and AOM’s), and any other corporate LAN resources.

Collaborative Workflow & Custom Content Development at Hurix

Rajit Anand and Sameet Mudbidri (Hurix Systems) described the challenges associated with the development of e-learning. Many organizations need custom content development. Development has many contributors. It has long development cycles with high cost. Developing custom content is cost-prohibitive.

The Hurix solution allows provides to have their custom content developed in an economic fashion via their various courseware development methodologies and systems. These systems and methods were described.

eLearning Technology Innovations from Harbinger

Shirkant Pattathil (Harbinger Systems) described several important tools developed by Harbinger for the development and delivery of e-learning. First, he outlined a systems integration process which allows clients to leverage their existing e-learning assets and align their e-learning requirements with business needs. They provide an LMS collaboration tool to facilitate this integrated development. Second, he described Harbinger’s offline player which enables existing courseware to play and record data when not connected to the web. The player is both AICC and SCORM compliant. Third, he described a schedule synchronizer which allows an organization to create a single calendar for tracking individual appointments and company training events. Finally, he discussed Elicitus, Leading template-based authoring tool used for rapidly creating web-based courses.

Wednesday, October 6

Presentations from airlines

Phongsakdi Mahaprueksarattana (Thai Airways) described the training efforts at Thai Airways.

Rubin Siddique (Lufthansa) and Ralf Pfetzing (Lufthansa) described the training and training development efforts at Lufthansa. They demonstrated LEGS® [Lufthansa Flight Training Easy Graphics], an XML-based system for the creation and delivery of dynamic displays.

Dang Ngoc Thach (Vietnam Airlines) described Vietnam Airlines and its training efforts. He outlined their organizational structure and their training courses. He described their Flight Training Center.

Herbert.Schwarz (Austrian Air) described crew training at Austrian Air. They are responsible for the training of 800 pilots and 2,200 flight attendants.

Vadim Sukhomlinov (Aeroflot) and Olga Chashina, (Aeroflot) described the Aeroflot Personnel Training Center with a focus on their Computer-assisted Language Learning (CALL) program. The use the CALL program to train over 2,500 each year.

Wing Hong Lee (Singapore Airlines) discussed the training efforts at his airline.

Integrating Enterprise Training Solutions

Stephen Young (Impart) described the efforts of Impart, a company which assists client organisations to improve their performance by growing the intellectual capital and capabilities of their people. They work with strategic information to decrease the employee skills gap. They use the Plateau LMS as a key part of this effort.

Open Discussion on Airline Training Requirements

Bernard Bouyt (Airbus) and Jean-Louis Bravo (Airbus) led a discussion focused on the thoughts and the needs of the airlines. The following five questions were discussed at some length. Responses from this meeting will be compiled with responses from the meeting and discussed in Miami.

QUESTION #1: Which utilization do airlines have of what aircraft manufacturers provide them with?

QUESTION #2: Do you use or intend to use intranet (beyond training centers) for consultation, recurrent training, type rating)?

QUESTION #3: Do you differentiate between Internet and intranet: % intranet? Specific developments? Downgrade of quality of course material to enable it to be delivered over Internet? (Opinions of use of Internet)

QUESTION #4: Percentage of self-paced CBT vs. projected CBT?

QUESTION #5: % of CBT compared to training devices

Thursday, October 6, 2004

AICC Executive Committee Meeting Summary

Bernard Bouyt (Airbus) stated that the AICC finances are in satisfactory condition. In 2003-2004, we incurred some heavy meeting expenses but we are on the road to recovery.

Three AICC certifications are in progress.

The following action items were generated:

1. Find a cheaper provider for AICC web site.

2. Provide a kiosk-based AICC PowerPoint (with audio) for the Bangkok Airbus training symposium next December.

3. Do another e-learning symposium for the next meeting.

The sites and dates for future AICC meetings are as follows:

Miami (Alteon) – 31 Jan to 4 Feb
Helsinki (Finnair) – 27 June to 1 July 2005
Washington DC (FAA & Plateau) – 26 to 30 September
San Antonio (TBD) – Jan 2006
Moscow (Aeroflot) – Summer 2006
Vancouver (Pelesys) – Autumn 2006

AICC SCORM – AICC CMI Convergence

Jack. Hyde (AICC) presented a number of items relating to the AICC-SCORM convergence.

No action items were established at this time. We are waiting for Ed Cohen to complete his survey before we start working on an AICC position paper.

The discussion reflected the following issues. Will there ever be complete convergence of AICC and SCORM? No, because there are services we specify which SCORM is not interested in.

Is there a future for file-based services when the world is migrating to the web and web services? The aviation industry needs to support a wide body of file-based legacy courseware which is still in use. We can’t abandon this. IEEE is working on Content Aggregation Model and not web specifications. Neither ADL or IEEE are addressing the web issues. Thus, the AICC is still being adopted because we have addressed web. When these other groups address web services, we will most likely follow their lead.

Why is AICC spending so much time on metadata when others are doing this work? We still need to look at the LOM because it may not be being addressed as thoroughly as we need. The LOM has deficiencies and weaknesses. Some concepts can’t be incorporated into the LOM. Furthermore, ISO got off to a slow start but are trying to accelerate their work. They have been working on this for 4 years and have produced nothing. The chairman has issued an ultimatum to them to get something done or risk cancellation of their project. The French delegation wants ISO to adopt the Dublin Core with few modifications.

CMI Working Group

Bill McDonald (Alteon) presented an overview of CMI subcommittee activities. He showed how some recent improvements have been made to CMI-001 to improve formatting, and more precisely define terms.

J. Hyde asked if should update CMI-001 with other data elements defined by the IEEE. Bill wants to avoid too many incremental changes and to focus on redoing the test suite. We hope that convergence will solve most of the problems. If we are to have a version 4, we ought to continue the cleanup and focus on those features which are still causing problems for the LMS developers. At next meeting, take a little more time to discuss how to proceed, including a weekly teleconference if it seems useful. The best feedback will need to come from LMS developers. We need to get them involved.

ACTION: Jack will make his suggestions more concrete and present them at the next meeting.

ACTION: Anne to make recommendations related to XML issues at next meeting.

ACTION: Make larger time slot for this discussion in Miami.

ACTION: Jack will visit with other vendors (Pathlore, Macromedia, Plateau, etc) to find their perspective on this as it relates to the offline CMI player.

There was an extensive discussion about implementing XML. This will be an important topic of discussion at the next meeting.

Bill provided an update of the independent test lab.

Metadata Subcommittee

Jack Hyde (AICC) provided a report on his attendance at the ISO meeting in Dublin (SC 36 working group 4). 90% of the work before WG4 is metadata. Any of the documents used by the committee are available on their web site. http://jtc1sc36.org/.

In February, we will discuss several issues: Do we want to add change management attributes to our LOM profile? What should attributes cover? And so.

Jack introduced the idea of defining the collections description in the LOM. Members discussed several issues. More discussion is needed at the next meeting.

Jack introduced the idea of complex conditionals. Members discussed the need for them. More discussion is needed at the next meeting.

Jack showed the Canadian survey and discussed some of its results and their relevance to AICC.

Bernard Bouyt presented an update of metadata.

AICC Reusable Object Working Group

Jack distributed a survey of Instructional Properties. They will complete the survey and email it back to Jack.

Attendee List

Name
Organization

Phone

Rajit Anand Hurix Systems Pvt. Ltd +91-22-56774835

Alex Barbagallo NWA 612 726-3971

Scott Bergstrom AICC 208 496-1136

Nimit Boocha Thai Airways +66(0)2-545-2787

Bernard Bouyt Airbus 33 (0) 561 93 21 39

Jean-Louis Bravo Airbus 33 (0) 561 93 20 44

Karlheinz Buhl INTEC +49 - (0)89 - 950 80 20

Sukit Chadthammaruk Thai Airways 66(0)2-545-2709

ThianWei Chan Singapore Airlines +65 6540 3632

Narongsak Dittasagul Hewlett-Packard (Thailand) Ltd.

Phan Huu Duc VietNam Airlines

Neil Cramer Northwest Airlines 612 726-8814

Nicolas Escherich Lufthansa Flight Training +4969 6969 8356

James E. Grant Boeing Commercial Airplanes (206) 662-8403

Allan Greene Pelesys Learning Systems (604) 233-6268

Sebastien Fraysse I-COMPONENT +33 (0)5 61 34 70 00

Jack Q. Hyde AICC 253 839-4549

Kari Itkonen Finnair 358 9818 4751

Terachat Jarusomsat Thai Airways +66 (0) 12 545 2634

Mridula Joshi Hurix Systems Pvt. Ltd +91-22-56774757

Sven Kallenius SAS Flight Academy + 46 8 797 49 27

Lim Kin Chew Singapore E-learning Competency Center +65 6790 3684

Aishwarya Kumaresh Hurix Systems Pvt. Ltd +91-22-56774879

Thuan Le Cong Seed Learning Systems 084 2 844 2810

Wing Hong Lee Singapore Airlines +65 6540 3620

Nicolai Levochkin Aeroflot Training Center 095 578 2072

Phongsakdi Mahaprueksarattana Thai Airways (662) 545-2786

Capt. Kamal Mahmood Biman Bangladesh Airlines +880 2 891 4771/2251

Capt. Mathew Mathew Singapore Airlines +65 6540 3603

William A. McDonald Boeing Commercial Airplanes (Alteon) 206 662-8485

Jan Miskovsky CSA-Czech Airlines 420 22011 2698

Kishor Mistry Cathay Pacific Airways Limited +852 2747 8604

Sameet Mudbidri Hurix Systems Pvt. Ltd +91-22-56774848

Kiyoshi Nakabayashi NTT Resonant Inc +81-3-5224-5131

Jan Pathuel

Shrikant Pattathil Harbinger Systems 91-20-2528 4201

Ralf Pfetzing Lufthansa Flight Training +49 68 6967 2439

Nguyen Pham Hoan Seed Learning Systems 084 8 844 2810

Dr. Ma’en Qatamin Knowledge Horizon +971 4 337 0080 ext 101

Kris Rockwell Hybrid Learning Systems 724 628 6800

Christer Rönnefall SAS Flight Academy +46 8 797 2989

Will Schart United Airlines (303) 780-3815

Herbert Schwarz Austrian Airlines

Olga Semenova Aeroflot 007(095)5783928

Michael Sharp Honeywell 602 436-2830

Rubin Siddique Lufthansa Flight Training +49-(0)69-696-93112

Talwinder Singh Minhas Macromedia South Asia Pte Ltd

Vadim Sukhomlinov Aeroflot 007 (095) 578 3929

Dang Ngoc Thach VietNam Airlines 084 8 848 5922

Caroline Tonel I-COMPONENT +33 (0)5 61 34 70 00

Stephen Young Impart Asia Pte Ltd +65 6322 0860